Blockade highlighted obscenity of Trident
As one of the many people taking part in the protest against Trident at Faslane on Monday, let me make some observations. The protest involved perhaps 1000 people and succeeded in blockading the two main entrances to the base. After leaving the blockade and returning home I watched the coverage on the Scottish news. Both main evening news programmes featured it as a major item. The next day all the quality Scottish papers gave it widespread coverage, with a resulting and ongoing debate. Given that the main aim of the blockade was to generate this kind of publicity and make people aware of the issue, one would have to say that it was a great success. If this and other protests had not taken place there would simply be no coverage and the government would take the lack of opposition as acquiescence.
The disruption to the local community was surely exaggerated, as was the use of police resources highlighted by Labour politicians. What they really meant to say was that you can have your protest as long as it is ineffectual and doesn't achieve anything.
The blockade once again highlighted the obscenity and absurdity of nuclear weapons. Labour politicians will argue, "of course we are all against nuclear weapons but the issue is complex". No, it's not. It's very simple. You are either for or against nuclear weapons and if you are against them you should campaign for their abolition, and in Scotland that means campaigning against the renewal of Trident. Nuclear weapons are not and never were a deterrent to anything; rather a reflection of Britain's Great Power status in the world. They are obscenely expensive and in Scotland have little support.
The government and Ministry of Defence will no doubt breathe a sigh of relief that the year-long protest at Faslane has come to an end. This is simply the end of round one. There will be much more to follow.
William Bonnar,
129 Ardmory Avenue, Glasgow.
Thank you for your balanced piece yesterday on the anti-Trident protest at Faslane. It was unfortunate that it was headlined "Faslane: paying the price of protest".
Of course there is a price attached to protest, in terms of policing (estimated at £6m), disruption to people's lives and, in some cases, imprisonment, but the price attached to Trident is much higher: £76bn. And, as long as we have Trident, our ability to criticise and stop other states possessing weapons of mass destruction is undermined.
Several doctors and an international group of medical students from International Physicians for the Prevention of Nuclear War were also present at the demonstration. They were there because part of our professional role is the protection of the public health, and nuclear weapons constitute a major threat to the health of our patients and the public, physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually.
Dr Lesley Morrison,
14 Kingsmeadows Road,
Peebles.
The Faslane 365 protest did
nothing but antagonise locals and allow some MSPs to posture. It had no effect on RN operations and in the end cost £6m in policing by officers who could have have been better deployed elsewhere.
Letters of protest to elected representatives would have been much more productive and not caused the upheaval to the rightly-furious local people.
While accepting their right of protest to be as sacrosanct as my right to criticise, surely our First Minister was unwise to have
written to the protesters, saying
that he shared their objective.
Alex Salmond, it seems, simply cannot shake off the image of
the opportunistic opposition politician, attempting to cash in on a passing bandwagon.
A First Minister of any stature would have let that one pass.
Alexander McKay,
8/7 New Cut Rigg,
Edinburgh.
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Posted by: GLASWEGIAN, GLASGOW on 11:05pm Tue 2 Oct 07
Alexander McKay apparently believes that the proposed replacement of the Trident nuclear missile deterrent is only "a passing bandwagon", and criticises Alex Salmond for sending a letter of support to the protesters. How can anyone be so incredibly stupid and shortsighted?
This desperately important subject is far too serious to be dealt with in terms of political opportunism. We are talking about something which could quite lterally bring about the end of all life on this planet. The tragedy is that politically-motivate
d spokesmen like Mr McKay cannot see this, and traet it as just one more chance to make cheap political jibes. Shame on you, Mr McKay. Very few thinking Scots agree with you.
Alexander McKay apparently believes that the proposed replacement of the Trident nuclear missile deterrent is only "a passing bandwagon", and criticises Alex Salmond for sending a letter of support to the protesters. How can anyone be so incredibly stupid and shortsighted?
This desperately important subject is far too serious to be dealt with in terms of political opportunism. We are talking about something which could quite lterally bring about the end of all life on this planet. The tragedy is that politically-motivate
d spokesmen like Mr McKay cannot see this, and traet it as just one more chance to make cheap political jibes. Shame on you, Mr McKay. Very few thinking Scots agree with you.
Posted by: T. Watson, Inverness on 5:35am Wed 3 Oct 07
Well, there is little possibility that alex McKay will ever protest publicly about a WMD obscenity like Trident.
I doubt if he will be writing any letters about it either to our elected representatives who he thinks will be responsive.
But no doubt he will continue to criticise Scotland's government and Scotland's First Minister as they continue to stand up for their country and people.
Well, there is little possibility that alex McKay will ever protest publicly about a WMD obscenity like Trident.
I doubt if he will be writing any letters about it either to our elected representatives who he thinks will be responsive.
But no doubt he will continue to criticise Scotland's government and Scotland's First Minister as they continue to stand up for their country and people.
Posted by: Get-a-job, Glasgow on 8:53am Wed 3 Oct 07
No wonder our police have a hard job maintaining a presence on the streets when they are diverted by this bunch of hippy loonies that we saw at Faslane dancing around their tambourines.
Fact is, it IS a complex issue, as the defence of a nation tends to be. For even doctors to start taking issue that the RN is affecting our health spiritually, well get real and start doing what doctors should be doing and used to do in this country, and that is provide a caring service and even, dare I say it, start visiting patients at home, which seems to have stopped in the last 20 years.
As for Alex Salmond, to paraphrase Billy Connolly, what do you expect from the leader of a "pretendy parliament".
In this day and age particularly, we need everything at our disposal to defend ourselves, especially as one realises who else potentially has such weapons. Focus on real wastes of money, like the ludicrously overstaffed public sector, and the ill-focussed NHS and transport strategies, and this country might start to regain its rightful place.
No wonder our police have a hard job maintaining a presence on the streets when they are diverted by this bunch of hippy loonies that we saw at Faslane dancing around their tambourines.
Fact is, it IS a complex issue, as the defence of a nation tends to be. For even doctors to start taking issue that the RN is affecting our health spiritually, well get real and start doing what doctors should be doing and used to do in this country, and that is provide a caring service and even, dare I say it, start visiting patients at home, which seems to have stopped in the last 20 years.
As for Alex Salmond, to paraphrase Billy Connolly, what do you expect from the leader of a "pretendy parliament".
In this day and age particularly, we need everything at our disposal to defend ourselves, especially as one realises who else potentially has such weapons. Focus on real wastes of money, like the ludicrously overstaffed public sector, and the ill-focussed NHS and transport strategies, and this country might start to regain its rightful place.
Posted by: G Wright, Glasgow UK on 9:21am Wed 3 Oct 07
The only thing the demo proved was that the majority of protesters are unkempt wasters, with nothing better to do than try and get a thrill from being dragged about by the Police.
These clowns know full well Great Britain will (rightly) never give up her nuclear arsenal; their continued presence in "peace camps" (dumps), or jail cells, tell more about how they have opted out of responsible mainstream society, rather than about any principles they may hold.
They continually fib about "the majority of scottish people want rid of these weapons". Which poll are they referring to here exactly? None, of course. I would bet the majority of Scots want Trident to stay; otherwise how can they explain the pathetic turn-out at the faslane demonstrations?
They protestors have no credibility either; how daring of them to cause trouble at sleepy faslane, where they only face the wrath of cuddly British Bobbies and the hapless locals whose lives they blight. I cant recall them staging any nuke-protests in the likes of Pakistan or Russia, where they would most certainly receive more appropriate treatment. Or is it only British nukes which are dangerous?
The only thing the demo proved was that the majority of protesters are unkempt wasters, with nothing better to do than try and get a thrill from being dragged about by the Police.
These clowns know full well Great Britain will (rightly) never give up her nuclear arsenal; their continued presence in "peace camps" (dumps), or jail cells, tell more about how they have opted out of responsible mainstream society, rather than about any principles they may hold.
They continually fib about "the majority of scottish people want rid of these weapons". Which poll are they referring to here exactly? None, of course. I would bet the majority of Scots want Trident to stay; otherwise how can they explain the pathetic turn-out at the faslane demonstrations?
They protestors have no credibility either; how daring of them to cause trouble at sleepy faslane, where they only face the wrath of cuddly British Bobbies and the hapless locals whose lives they blight. I cant recall them staging any nuke-protests in the likes of Pakistan or Russia, where they would most certainly receive more appropriate treatment. Or is it only British nukes which are dangerous?
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 10:18am Wed 3 Oct 07
I do not want Trident on my doorstep,I do not want WMDs on anyones doorstep.They are virtually useless since anyone firing one of these atrocities condemns the whole world.
I am glad that there are those who protest on my behalf,since my days of sitting down in the cold and wet are athritically over.
The western world has the audacity to stamp its feet and yell over Iran wanting nuclear power,granted I would'nt trust their authority with WMDs,neither do I trust ANY other authority with WMDs.They are an unnecessary evil and temptation to the button pusher.
I do not want Trident on my doorstep,I do not want WMDs on anyones doorstep.They are virtually useless since anyone firing one of these atrocities condemns the whole world.
I am glad that there are those who protest on my behalf,since my days of sitting down in the cold and wet are athritically over.
The western world has the audacity to stamp its feet and yell over Iran wanting nuclear power,granted I would'nt trust their authority with WMDs,neither do I trust ANY other authority with WMDs.They are an unnecessary evil and temptation to the button pusher.
Posted by: Huttcity, New Zealand on 10:38am Wed 3 Oct 07
[quote][bold]Disgusted Dorothy[/bold] wrote:
I do not want Trident on my doorstep,I do not want WMDs on anyones doorstep.They are virtually useless since anyone firing one of these atrocities condemns the whole world.
I am glad that there are those who protest on my behalf,since my days of sitting down in the cold and wet are athritically over.
The western world has the audacity to stamp its feet and yell over Iran wanting nuclear power,granted I would'nt trust their authority with WMDs,neither do I trust ANY other authority with WMDs.They are an unnecessary evil and temptation to the button pusher.[/quote] That is the point of the damm things - their job is to ensure the utter destruction of anyone who attacks us with nuclear weapons or any other WMD. Yes it's MAD by name and nature but the alternative you seem to suggest is peace through supplication to hostile nuclear powers.
Wishing the world was different sadly will not make it so.
If you have any suggestions for disarming China and Russia I'd love to hear them, but until then I am afraid trident is a necessarily evil in an evil world.
Disgusted Dorothy wrote:
I do not want Trident on my doorstep,I do not want WMDs on anyones doorstep.They are virtually useless since anyone firing one of these atrocities condemns the whole world.
I am glad that there are those who protest on my behalf,since my days of sitting down in the cold and wet are athritically over.
The western world has the audacity to stamp its feet and yell over Iran wanting nuclear power,granted I would'nt trust their authority with WMDs,neither do I trust ANY other authority with WMDs.They are an unnecessary evil and temptation to the button pusher.
That is the point of the damm things - their job is to ensure the utter destruction of anyone who attacks us with nuclear weapons or any other WMD. Yes it's MAD by name and nature but the alternative you seem to suggest is peace through supplication to hostile nuclear powers.
Wishing the world was different sadly will not make it so.
If you have any suggestions for disarming China and Russia I'd love to hear them, but until then I am afraid trident is a necessarily evil in an evil world.
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 11:27am Wed 3 Oct 07
You miss the point about deploying a weapon,we are doomed as a world if ANYONE fires just one of these things.
I don't take comfort in the idea if they(whoever 'they' may be) will be blootered into kingdom come by our retaliation.
Bear in mind that should some rogue state set itself against this country,their first targets will be those with the ability to fire back.
And it's goodbye from us shortly followed by the whole world.
I have never believed that this kind of so called defence system is anything but dangerous ,ridiculous and a crime against us all.
You miss the point about deploying a weapon,we are doomed as a world if ANYONE fires just one of these things.
I don't take comfort in the idea if they(whoever 'they' may be) will be blootered into kingdom come by our retaliation.
Bear in mind that should some rogue state set itself against this country,their first targets will be those with the ability to fire back.
And it's goodbye from us shortly followed by the whole world.
I have never believed that this kind of so called defence system is anything but dangerous ,ridiculous and a crime against us all.
Posted by: G Wright, Glasgow UK on 3:23pm Wed 3 Oct 07
Disgusted Dorothy - you are not correct. The world would not automatically be condemned, for example, we could nuke a nation without its own arsenal without fear of reprisals.
Your attitude is all down to heated emotion, and no cold analysis. The existence of nuclear weapons has prevented a third world war for over 60 years now. I see no reason why this excellent record shouldnt continue.
We in the West have a right to stamp our feet on these issues. We are superior to the likes of the Iranians, who publically call for Israel to be attacked and "wiped off the map". You never hear such savage bloodthirsty rhetoric from Downing Street or Washington. This is the difference which means it is [bold]NOT[/bold] hypocrasy to mantain such weapons while objecting to others having them.
Nuclear weapons also ended the 2nd world war early, saving the lives of many thousands of Allied servicemen - who otherwise would have had to conquer japan inch by inch.
It seems to me then that these weapons have (so far anyway) a great record as a preventer of, and a finisher of, conflict.
Nuclear weapons are here to stay, its best to accept reality than to delude yourself these protests achieve a single thing.
PS - I like it how the RN base always issues a derisory statement "The protest had no effect whatsoever on the running of the base, nor any activities being carried out within" following any protest.
Disgusted Dorothy - you are not correct. The world would not automatically be condemned, for example, we could nuke a nation without its own arsenal without fear of reprisals.
Your attitude is all down to heated emotion, and no cold analysis. The existence of nuclear weapons has prevented a third world war for over 60 years now. I see no reason why this excellent record shouldnt continue.
We in the West have a right to stamp our feet on these issues. We are superior to the likes of the Iranians, who publically call for Israel to be attacked and "wiped off the map". You never hear such savage bloodthirsty rhetoric from Downing Street or Washington. This is the difference which means it is
NOT hypocrasy to mantain such weapons while objecting to others having them.
Nuclear weapons also ended the 2nd world war early, saving the lives of many thousands of Allied servicemen - who otherwise would have had to conquer japan inch by inch.
It seems to me then that these weapons have (so far anyway) a great record as a preventer of, and a finisher of, conflict.
Nuclear weapons are here to stay, its best to accept reality than to delude yourself these protests achieve a single thing.
PS - I like it how the RN base always issues a derisory statement "The protest had no effect whatsoever on the running of the base, nor any activities being carried out within" following any protest.
Posted by: hippy with a tambourine, not the peace camp on 4:11pm Wed 3 Oct 07
[italic]"We in the West have a right to stamp our feet on these issues. We are superior to the likes of the Iranians, who publically call for Israel to be attacked and "wiped off the map". "[/italic]
[italic]Superior[/italic]? Superior!?!? I dare not ask what ideology you follow to make a statement like that. With regards to the "wiped of the map" claim that depends upon translation of the now infamous speech by the Iranian President.
[italic]"You never hear such savage bloodthirsty rhetoric from Downing Street or Washington."[/italic]
Yeah, yeah, and the Greatest Briton was never "strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes" to sort out the "recalcitrant Arabs".
[italic]"Nuclear weapons also ended the 2nd world war early, saving the lives of many thousands of Allied servicemen - who otherwise would have had to conquer japan inch by inch."[/italic]
You narrate this as though it is undisputed historical fact! That, however, is not the case as you well know.
[italic]"Nuclear weapons are here to stay, its best to accept reality than to delude yourself these protests achieve a single thing."[/italic]
Where is the South African stockpile today then? Am I imagining Barack Obama declaring an intention to rid the world of WMD, including that of the US, to make us all safer?
To your utterances I would say: "Your attitude is all down to heated emotion, and no cold analysis."
"We in the West have a right to stamp our feet on these issues. We are superior to the likes of the Iranians, who publically call for Israel to be attacked and "wiped off the map". "
Superior? Superior!?!? I dare not ask what ideology you follow to make a statement like that. With regards to the "wiped of the map" claim that depends upon translation of the now infamous speech by the Iranian President.
"You never hear such savage bloodthirsty rhetoric from Downing Street or Washington."
Yeah, yeah, and the Greatest Briton was never "strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes" to sort out the "recalcitrant Arabs".
"Nuclear weapons also ended the 2nd world war early, saving the lives of many thousands of Allied servicemen - who otherwise would have had to conquer japan inch by inch."
You narrate this as though it is undisputed historical fact! That, however, is not the case as you well know.
"Nuclear weapons are here to stay, its best to accept reality than to delude yourself these protests achieve a single thing."
Where is the South African stockpile today then? Am I imagining Barack Obama declaring an intention to rid the world of WMD, including that of the US, to make us all safer?
To your utterances I would say: "Your attitude is all down to heated emotion, and no cold analysis."
Posted by: Jill Ferguson, Glasgow on 4:59pm Wed 3 Oct 07
I would just like to fully endorse and commend the words of William Bonnar. As someone who has attended the Faslane Blockade in previous years. I can honestly say that the over the top dealings by police, and the arrests that followed this latest protest were appauling.
Not only will the cost of processing those arrested be a complete waste of tax payers money, but the actuall cost of policing Faslane.
Our Politicians are increasingly throwing our money away in their over-policing events, and in the provision of arms and soldiers to Iraq. All this at the ultimate cost to our own nation, and it's running.
Our NHS is failing, and being centralised to cut costs, our Schools are being closed, merged, and the land sold to private developers, and our liberty is being stripped away from us, with the use of I.D. cards, CCTV, and increased security measures.
None of which have an 100% guarantee of being effective, and successful, in combatting terrorism, fraud, crime, and identity theft.
This right wing New Labour / Thatcherite Dictatorship has had its run, lets see Gordon Brown Step asside for the next party to run our country, whoever they may be ?
I would just like to fully endorse and commend the words of William Bonnar. As someone who has attended the Faslane Blockade in previous years. I can honestly say that the over the top dealings by police, and the arrests that followed this latest protest were appauling.
Not only will the cost of processing those arrested be a complete waste of tax payers money, but the actuall cost of policing Faslane.
Our Politicians are increasingly throwing our money away in their over-policing events, and in the provision of arms and soldiers to Iraq. All this at the ultimate cost to our own nation, and it's running.
Our NHS is failing, and being centralised to cut costs, our Schools are being closed, merged, and the land sold to private developers, and our liberty is being stripped away from us, with the use of I.D. cards, CCTV, and increased security measures.
None of which have an 100% guarantee of being effective, and successful, in combatting terrorism, fraud, crime, and identity theft.
This right wing New Labour / Thatcherite Dictatorship has had its run, lets see Gordon Brown Step asside for the next party to run our country, whoever they may be ?
Posted by: tom, europe on 5:22pm Wed 3 Oct 07
Get-a job Glesga...get a life,pal. Don't cite Billy's daft wee quip as serious political comment. One, because it's not his job; two, because I once lived downstairs from hin and Tam Harvie (so ah ken); three, because his mindset is in the 1970s when he last lived in Scotland - Laird o' Lonnach (whatever) disnae count; a jape for LA pals; and four....since he was brought up in Glesga in the 1950s and left in the 1970s, he's an unredeemable Labour NUMPTY
Get-a job Glesga...get a life,pal. Don't cite Billy's daft wee quip as serious political comment. One, because it's not his job; two, because I once lived downstairs from hin and Tam Harvie (so ah ken); three, because his mindset is in the 1970s when he last lived in Scotland - Laird o' Lonnach (whatever) disnae count; a jape for LA pals; and four....since he was brought up in Glesga in the 1950s and left in the 1970s, he's an unredeemable Labour NUMPTY
Posted by: Jill Ferguson, Glasgow on 6:21pm Wed 3 Oct 07
Assuming you mean Mr Salmond, this un-redeemable Labour NUMPTY you speak of will be in front of an audience for an "Ask Alex" programme, on Radio Clyde this week! So as a leftie cynic I'll be scrutinising his overinflated ego, and that gas - bag, hot air he spouts will be revealed for all to see, or hear as the case may be!
Try and contain that excitement! I'm about as excited as a **** in a trance!
Assuming you mean Mr Salmond, this un-redeemable Labour NUMPTY you speak of will be in front of an audience for an "Ask Alex" programme, on Radio Clyde this week! So as a leftie cynic I'll be scrutinising his overinflated ego, and that gas - bag, hot air he spouts will be revealed for all to see, or hear as the case may be!
Try and contain that excitement! I'm about as excited as a **** in a trance!
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 6:23pm Wed 3 Oct 07
You are saying that just having nuclear weapons has prevented a third world war,may I ask you for proof that it was anything to do with nuclear weapons?
As for preventing war,look around they are happening all over the world without these **** bombs.
I do not accept that we are somehow superior to anyone,in fact I'm quite jaundiced by the actions taken in our name.
You are saying that just having nuclear weapons has prevented a third world war,may I ask you for proof that it was anything to do with nuclear weapons?
As for preventing war,look around they are happening all over the world without these **** bombs.
I do not accept that we are somehow superior to anyone,in fact I'm quite jaundiced by the actions taken in our name.
Posted by: Disgusted Dorothy, Glasgow on 7:26pm Wed 3 Oct 07
I see the word 'brutal'offended some pillocks sensibilities.
I see the word 'brutal'offended some pillocks sensibilities.
Posted by: GLASWEGIAN, GLASGOW on 7:53pm Wed 3 Oct 07
What a weird lot of people there are out there, reading these messages from,outer space!
Can anyone tell me who we are defending ourselves against with our Trident nuclear weapons? Al Qaida? China? Iran? Perhaps even George Bush, who seems desperate to wage war against anyone who disagrees with him, just as long as neither he nor any of his amily have to be directly involved. As fae=r as I remember, the Texas National Guard never went within ten thousand miles of Vietnam.
If Britain ever got the US's permission to fire a nuclear warhead, we would simply be committing national suicide, as would any other nation who dared to do so. If no one had nuclear weapons, the world would be a very much safer place..
What a weird lot of people there are out there, reading these messages from,outer space!
Can anyone tell me who we are defending ourselves against with our Trident nuclear weapons? Al Qaida? China? Iran? Perhaps even George Bush, who seems desperate to wage war against anyone who disagrees with him, just as long as neither he nor any of his amily have to be directly involved. As fae=r as I remember, the Texas National Guard never went within ten thousand miles of Vietnam.
If Britain ever got the US's permission to fire a nuclear warhead, we would simply be committing national suicide, as would any other nation who dared to do so. If no one had nuclear weapons, the world would be a very much safer place..
Posted by: Jim, Irvine on 8:06pm Wed 3 Oct 07
Aldermaston, the so called 'UK' Nuclear Experimental station for
Trident Missiles is no longer controlled by the UK. Parliament.
Haliburtons of America is the Controller of all Experiments and build
of the Trident Missiles. The notion that Halibuton is Re-Calibrating
the Missile System fills me with dread. The System was originally
targetted on Russia. President Bush recently announced that if
Pakistan didnt sort out the Terrorists in their Territory bordering
Afghanistan , he wouldnt quibble about striking with atomic weapons.
Lets not beat about the ' bush'. Bush is a Terrorist; and the thought
of him in control of the so called UK WMDs should frighten the hell
out of us all.
Recently Dr Busby whilst investigating the Diabetis outbreak in Europe requested Haliburton/ Aldermaston to release figures which
showed radiation data on Aldermaston Filters. Haliburton refused ; Busby had to use The Freedom of Information Act to get his Information. This data proved that Depleated Uranium shelling was cause of much of Diabetis increase in Puerto Rico, Scotland and the
rest of Europe. Not to mention Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo etc.
Aldermaston, the so called 'UK' Nuclear Experimental station for
Trident Missiles is no longer controlled by the UK. Parliament.
Haliburtons of America is the Controller of all Experiments and build
of the Trident Missiles. The notion that Halibuton is Re-Calibrating
the Missile System fills me with dread. The System was originally
targetted on Russia. President Bush recently announced that if
Pakistan didnt sort out the Terrorists in their Territory bordering
Afghanistan , he wouldnt quibble about striking with atomic weapons.
Lets not beat about the ' bush'. Bush is a Terrorist; and the thought
of him in control of the so called UK WMDs should frighten the hell
out of us all.
Recently Dr Busby whilst investigating the Diabetis outbreak in Europe requested Haliburton/ Aldermaston to release figures which
showed radiation data on Aldermaston Filters. Haliburton refused ; Busby had to use The Freedom of Information Act to get his Information. This data proved that Depleated Uranium shelling was cause of much of Diabetis increase in Puerto Rico, Scotland and the
rest of Europe. Not to mention Iraq, Afghanistan and Kosovo etc.
Posted by: Bill Nisbet, Hervey Bay Qld Australia on 8:01am Thu 4 Oct 07
G Wright - you couldn't possibly be more wrong.
"It is not hypocricy to maintain nuclear weapons while objecting to others having them".
Aye right - pull the other leg, it's got bells on it.
G Wright - you couldn't possibly be more wrong.
"It is not hypocricy to maintain nuclear weapons while objecting to others having them".
Aye right - pull the other leg, it's got bells on it.
Posted by: Jill Ferguson, Glasgow on 12:15pm Thu 4 Oct 07
Exactly Bill,
Bush and Blair oppose Iran, and other nations in the worlds right to build, or contruct nuclear warheads . . . . . whilst defiantly holding onto their right to own or fire theres . . . . . Total hypocrisy!!!!!!
They should practice what they preach, and get on with governing their own countrys. The world is in enough of a mess without Bush sticking his ore in everywhere, his arrogance is just one of the aggravating factors why we've seen so many ongoing wars in the gulf, and unneccessary lifes lost over oil, and non existant WMD's !
Decommission all our Nuclear warheads! And advocate for PEACE!
Exactly Bill,
Bush and Blair oppose Iran, and other nations in the worlds right to build, or contruct nuclear warheads . . . . . whilst defiantly holding onto their right to own or fire theres . . . . . Total hypocrisy!!!!!!
They should practice what they preach, and get on with governing their own countrys. The world is in enough of a mess without Bush sticking his ore in everywhere, his arrogance is just one of the aggravating factors why we've seen so many ongoing wars in the gulf, and unneccessary lifes lost over oil, and non existant WMD's !
Decommission all our Nuclear warheads! And advocate for PEACE!
Posted by: Mike, Dundee on 1:30pm Thu 4 Oct 07
Deterence hasn't worked for the last 60 years. It's all because my granny kept a blue sock in the corner of a drawer. If she ever took it out, there would have been nuclear armageddon, but she didn't. Blue sock stayed in drawer, ergo no nuclear holocaust. Prove it's not so. Go on...............
Deterence hasn't worked for the last 60 years. It's all because my granny kept a blue sock in the corner of a drawer. If she ever took it out, there would have been nuclear armageddon, but she didn't. Blue sock stayed in drawer, ergo no nuclear holocaust. Prove it's not so. Go on...............
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